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fee e de g ha g he f ac ha ha he e a
ha e.
I he a fe e de a d ea he e I a g g
h ha , h dea ha a a e c d be a de g ed h g,
a he ha a c ea f eg a a d c e a d ha d f ff.
The dea ha he e a e de g c e ha he e a e ,
ha ha b ec e , ha h e b ec e a e c -de g ed h he
e e h a e ac ed b a a a d a f ha d f ff. I h
e g he e he e d. I a a e e g c e a a d
h d de a d ha e ? Wha he e ea ch b ec e?
Wha ' he e ha a de de a d a e ? N he
a a acc a de a d a e b he a a ec
de a d a e , he a e h ab ea h ed b a d
e a a d h e f h g a d he e a a , he e ha
a a a h e f echa . Y ca ' d e a g e a
e f ea h a d c e e a . Th e h g a e ed
ge he . H d I de a d h e f h g ? Wha d e
a efac e? Wha d e e e? Wha he e
a f a ? Th e f e a e e e g cha e ge .
I e . O e e e a da f Sa ah He e e .
I fee ha I ha e b che ed a e, Sa ah.
SARAH HEIMEIER: Pe fec .
STEVE BATY: Sa ah a ab h e de g
e ea ch ac ce a d ea e e e c g Sa ah he age,
ha ch. (APPLAUSE)
SARAH HEIMEIER: Tha ch f ha S e e. Y d d a

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a a e gh . Tha , e ch. I e ha d, he e
a E a d I .
Tha f g e. A a ee age , I d ge f bed a
5a a S da g g a d ce b ead W h a d I
a he ba e ec a 5a a d be e e e, he beg g, I a
he be h g ce ced b ead, fac , a e cha c a d
e e f .
Le e e he ce e f . I a g a d, c g b ead,
dea g h c a f c e a d he b ead g g e
e . A I' c g he b ead, he e ce a da he e I ha e ced a
f he b ead a d e e ac a a ce he b ead, e
e I e e ced a f he b ead a a d ch b ead a d ha
e e a a a b ead. The e a d ffe e de he b ead
ce , e f a d ch a d e f a . I d d ' e e ea e he e a
a d ffe e ce, I h e a f he b ead d e de a d h ed f he
be .
D ' e e ge e a ed he d gh . Ha a e e e
ade d gh bef e? I ha e. I g d he b ead a d he d gh
a he a e e. D g he ge he a g cha e g g. I
d be c g he b ead a d he he d gh d a ge g
bac ed a d be h c , a f he e e d ha e a d
e beca e he d gh had a d I f g ef . The I d
be f a ca c g he , b g h , g he a c a d
g he c a a d b h g a f he def ed
d gh I c ea ed. E e a , I a d g he b ead a d he d gh
a he a e e a d I ha e a he e a g c e c g
a d c a g e beca e I ced a f he b ead, I ced he
g a , I a de ed he d gh a d ha e e
ea a he b ead a d d gh a S da g. Wh d

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ha e h gh ?
The h g ha I ea ha - ac a , I a e a e bac .
Wha I d d a ce a I e ded h g a b ch f b ead
he b ead ce a e e ha I had e gh a d he h g
b h de ha I ade e I had a a d a d ch b ead. E e
he , I a ad g a d a d he e a d ea ed
c e e e he e. Th c e e cha ha ca ha e h
c e e ea ch he d e gh a d a ce ' f ed.
T da I a e h gh ha d bef e, d g a d af e
e ea ch, ha d e ' a c e e c e gh a e e
b ead a d d gh , h ch d d ' e e . Whe
h ac f e ea ch, he ca c ea e a ab e,
ac ab e c e gh ha ca a de g a d ge
h e ea b a d he ce .
The f h g d , bef e e ea ch, a g. O e f he
h g ha ea a ge gh a he a def e c ea
e ea ch b ec e . Ma g e ha h ea a
def e ha ha e a ea a d ha a e e a g e e
ge he ? Def g he dec ha a e g a e, he ea g
a e g d a d a h he ha a e g e
h gh he e ea ch. H I ha e d e h bef e , he d g
e ea ch h ee f e ea , I def ed e f e ea ch
b ec e h ea , ge g he b a d ge he de a d
h e a c e fee he he a e e ac g h . B
de f g h a e ea ch b ec e ge he a d a fe he , I
a ab e ge he b e he a e e a e de e g a a
ga a a d he e a e e g g h he e ea ch, ha d e a
d ge he ?
The he he a f h be ab e g e e e ha

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be c ea e h gh e ea ch. If a
e ca be e c g a d e a a e e ea
e gage a d d d ffe e ac e a d a a ab e . Y a
d h g ha a he e d ffe e e a d a h e e
ha a ab he a beha , a e a a g ab he a
beha a e a he a e e e ce , a e ab e a
de a d he a d he e e e ce , ca a ha
de g .
Wha I e d g e e e ac e d , e b a d ,
hee , e a h , e a d ge g he e gage d ffe e
a . Whe I a d g e ea ch ab e , I ga e e e he ac
ba ca e e e e a d ha e e e he Pad. I a e
f , I ea e ed .
Th gh he e e e , I a ab e hea f e e ha
he ed he Pad beca e a ed he c ec h he fa .
The e e ab e c ca e he a ha ed f he . The
e e ab e d a , d ha d g, h che e a ha he a ed
a d he a he he a e g, he d d ' fee e he e e ed
d b a hea c e , he e e ab e g a he e. The had
f eed he e e .
I he b ea - e e he ab e , I hea d ab h ha d
a c ea e c e a d h a a f ce , e c g,
a g a d g be ee ab a d I a ab e ee a d de a d
he d ffe e e ha e e e e e e e c g he c ea g ha
c e .
A he e a e ha I ha e d g e e ea ch a e
a e f ga a , I g e e a a g ab
he fee g , e f h he fe a d he f a ce a d I ga e
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e e a a c a e he h gh a d he fee g . I hea d
e f e e ab e e had ece g e h gh a a
d ce. I hea d h e ed he fe a d a he fe ab he
f a ce . The e e e beca e he had a f c ed ca d deb .
The e e g a ff he h e a d he e e e e ed .
The e e g h ee b , h ch h he e e he e ea g
e a . I a ab e de a d he e e a d hea f he a d
a de a d he e e e ce a d ge g he ea e gaged
he ce .
O a he e ha I f d ea f , I d beca e e
f a d e f he ga e ha e d ec e d, f a d ,
c ea g a e b. Wha a e b? A e a d gh f a g.
The ce f d g h ge e e e a d a d a c c e
a d e d a a e he each a a d. The g a d he
c c e a d e e a c e a e he e fee
ach ha h e b d e. Y a e c ea g e ha e ,
e ha e a e e he a e d e ' fa fa f he ee he
g e ' g d. Y a e c ea g ade e b a d
ab ge g he ea he a e age, ha g f a d ge g he
c ec h each he .
O e ha I ha e d e bef e h a e e d g.
O ce ge he e d, e e e ha g , e , e , e a d ha e
d a a fa c g f c a . Y ca ' d a ea c a beca e a e e
h he . I ha be a fa c c a . The he a ab
c g h e h g c e e , e ha e e a e
ge he .
The he a a a d a g ha I f d ea he e
f e ea ch ha h g ahead a he e a e e g g. P a g
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a bac a d ha g ha d a he a . The he a c ea e
e h g ha e a e h a eh de , he a e ab e
c ec h a d e h g ha a e g g he a
he ac e e' e g g e d he P e P . I
c ea g e h g ha a c a e ha f d , a g he
c ec h a d a de a d a d he g bac a d efe
.
H I ha e d e h bef e he d g e ea ch h ee
f e ea , I had a he e d ffe e age ha I ga e ea
a a c a e ha f e fee e, ha d e e a d
h d e e e ac h each he he f e? I hea d e ha
f e e e e ce e a PT, he a e he e c ach . The e
ha d e a e, he a e e d he e e c e gh . The
ee acc ab e he d ' a d a e. I a
e a ba be , he e, c ed e, he a e he e
a d ca e a d he ge e. Whe a g h e ea ch, I e
a he e d f ha I ea a ed d a be ab e a bac
he ea a e e he c d a e ge he h e. B he
e d f , I a ab e e he e a bac he ea a d c af
e e e ce c e a d b ha g he e age a a f he e ea ch
a d a bac , e e e a ab e a ee ha e e e ce e
e e c ea g a d ha e e e g a d h ee f e ea .
N ha ha e a ed e ea ch. I e . I
d ' f ha e hea d ab h a bef e, he e a fe he
e e ha ha e a ed ab c de g . I fee e e e e cah .
O e f he a a , e f g e ea ch a d
e a ch g , e f he de g ce , g a c de g
a ach. Ma g e ha c e e ec e a d de f
e dea , beca e a e ab e de f e dea h ea

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b g h he a d a he e e h a e e e e f he
b e ha a e g a d b g g he a g f he e a d
a g he ce a de g ce he ca ha e a c ea e
c b he a e f g a d he a e g
b e .
H I ha e d e h bef e he d g e ea ch h f a c a
ad , I ed a b ch f he a g a d ga e he c ea e c
f de g g a e da hb a d f h d e c ea e f a c a ad ce? We
had h e a d ge g he ba ca e ha e he b e , e
he ag a a d a g he f h e c ea ed
ha f a c a ad ce ha ed f he a d h he d d f a c a
ad ce. Wha I e ded d g a , I ed e ad f each
ac ce b I e ded ha g h e f a c a ad ce ac ce c e
a g, h ch he e e e f e he I ed h he he e
e e e e. I a ab e h he he a e f he be g a
f he de g ce a d ge g he b a d, he c e a g
a he e e e c d dee d e a d de a d he ce a d
a e a ha ed f he .
Wha I a ab e de a d f he ce ha he
ad e e d g a g d ffe e ac he c e '
a . See g h ac ed he g a a d he g a he
f a c a ec g "Ha e I h c e a be e ace?
Ha e I d e a e g d b? Sh d I a e cha ge ?" A d be g
ab e h he f . We de g ed a c ea e g ea
f a c a ad ce a d a ha ed f he f ade
ea e f he d h g .
The e a f g e ea ch he a e c ed
e . Th e a d ha be g ab e , e a f he d ffe e
e f e ea ch a e g, a e a ab e e, f d '

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eed g h gh he a c ca c ea e e h g ha ca
efe bac ea d g he e , ha g e a e d
e h g, a e e e a e c ed. H I ha e d e h
bef e he d g e ea ch e ffe , he I had a he e
d ffe e ca d ha e e e g a d e ed a f he e a d
he I had a e f a c a a d a e f e a e a d ha
e d d a e had he e d ffe e ca d a d e he P - e
a d he each f he ffe he e a d he , e e e
ab e ee h ch e e f ed e , ha cha ge h d e a e?
Wh ch e h d e g f a d h? Wha a e he e ha
e ha e de f ed g f a d h? I he ed a e ha e a d
a de f ha ga e had e ea ch a e .
A he a ha I e be ab e ge a eh de ed
e ea ch a c ea e c e- a g age f he . Th e
a he d g e ea ch da ed a e f he
b e a d I c ea ed he e e ca d ha he a eh de e e
ab e e ha a g ed he d ffe e ac e e e e d g a d a ea
e e e e g he c d he e d ha d he ee a d
ha a e he b e g? The e e ab e ge ed he e ea ch,
ead f c g a g, a g he a , e g a d
ea he e e ab e a c a e ha a I hea g, ha g
a d ha , he g he he d c e had af e a d .
The he e a f h e a ac e . Wha I e
d ha e he e d ffe e a ac e ha a c e
ea he he a e he h gh , a ha ha e e
d c ed d g he e ? Wha a e he d ffe e e e e ha he
ha e a ed ab ? The he g he a c a e a ea a , I
ca e he e h f de e a e a f he a ab
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I ha e d e h bef e, he de g g a e f a c a a I
ga e e e h ee he ha he c d a he ag c ge e ha e had
ab he f a ce . Wha I hea d a e a d "Wha ha e
h d I b ? H d I a e f a ce a age he e e ? H d I
a f e e e ?" A d he , f c e, e e e a ed f e
he . The ag c f a c a ge e, h d ' ? Sad , he
c d ' . Wha e e e ab e d a de a d ha e e e e
g f , ha e e he d ffe e eed f h f a c a a , a d h
c d e e he g g f a d?
A he a f ha e ea ch, e had h e f- e ed a d
de a d g e e ' c f de ce h f a ce a d h he a ed
e . We d a he ba ca f h , e a he
a ge a de a d g f h c f de d he fee he a e a d
he e g he e d f he e e e e ab e g - ba ed
e f he e ha he a ed he ge e, he e d e fee e
he ? Wha eed d he ha e? Wha ga d he ha e, e f
he edge? We e e a ab e de a d he d ffe e c e
eed a d h d e d ffe f he e f- e ed f ha he ea
a ?
Y he e ea ch. I e d he a d a
bac dec a e . Wha I e d af e each e
d a b a d a gh a a , d g h d d a , e d ' add
a e a b a e f a e e e h he e . P g d
ha d he e a d he a de f g ha ha e
ha e hea d a e a e ha cha ge d I a a e g g f a d
he e e , I a ab e a ee f, ha e e a e ed
e ea ch b ec e ? D e eed a e cha ge ? The he a
ce ha e d e a b ch f e ea ch e , e e e I d d 18,
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f g e ab a d be g ab e bac a e e e ed h e
a d ee a a he g f a d h he .
The he a ha I f d ha d ha e a e e a e a e
he g f ce a d c ea g fa a f
a eh de a he ha e ec g g f a d a d
ha h d he e ec b he e d f he e ea ch a d a g he
ha e e h g ha he ge ed a e .
H I ha e h ge he bef e , e ha I e I ha e
e ea ch b ec e a he . Th e he a P e P a d he I
ha e a de c f a c a , h d d e e e ? Wha e e
e f he cha ac e c ? The I ha e d ffe e ec f
e ea ch, b e d h e a d he e ea g h ec f
each f he d ffe e a ea f e ea ch. I he ha e he c ee ,
a d ag a f he e ea ch, a eh de ca
c ec h , he be ha a gh f d g ha e had a d
he ea a a , he ec e da , e ha ha ?
Wha a e e ec e d g e g f a d h? A add a e ea ch.
Th a e he f . Y ca a ha a e e f he h g
d d ' a e d g he e ea ch a d ha a e e f he e
ha ca e ha e d d ' ea e? I f d he he a eh de a "D d
e f d h a d ha ?" I he e fec h g g h a ce
ff, a eg a ac ha e a e d g ge he .
The he a e e a , e ea e a e f
e ea ch. Th ea ab be g ab e b g e ea ch fe
e e ca c ec h a d a e gage h . He g
a eh de a de a d a e e d ,
g a a a g de .
H I ha e d e h bef e ha I ha e ge he , he I
ha e bee g d g e ea ch a a d ec da

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acc f ba acc , h d e e c e he f a ce ? I g
e e a ha he f a c a d? Wha d e ha
e e e ce e? O a age he had a b a age, he c d
ge he a f he d ffe e d c ha he e e g, he e he
a ed , h d he c ec ge he ? Wha a e he e a h
h he ? H a e he g he ? Wh ch e a e g? Wh ch
e d d he ge d f ece ? I had each a c a a ha . A
a f a bac , I g ed he he d ffe e a ea ha e had
de f ed a d ed a bac a eh de he c d a
c ec h he e ea ch a d ea de a d ha e had f d
. We f d ha he e a h ee d ffe e a ea f e ea ch, f
f a c a d c he e e g. O e ha e ca h c e , e
e , e he e he had e c g a d he h he
a age f a e? U de a d g he e c ec e e e a d
he he e d he e a ? Wha d c e e ed f e
h g ? We e e he ab e de a d h d d a eh de a
e h ? B e e g he , I a ab e he ee he e a e he
ea a a ea ha he a ed dee d e he e d he
ha e e e ? A d e e g e he f h a e gh a d
a g ab h ha e f d a d a e , h ha
e e ea a ed e h f a d he e e ab e ea a e
dec a d g f a d h he e ea ch a d a e a
ha e a e g .
The a he e a e ha I ha e a e ea ch I a d g
a e a ea e. T a de a d ha ha e ed, e f ha
e e e ce, ha ed ha - ha e e e f he e e e
ha e e had d g ha e? L g bac a d ge g each e
a , f a d g g bac a d bef e he had he ch d a d
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e e e ha he had a d , a d cha ge he g
a , e dec ha he ade, a h g e a d a e g
a e . Be ha , ha a e he cha e ge e ha he ha e?
Wha e e he ea a e ha he had ea b g
e ? We g he each a he e e e c d
de a d he ce he e e g g h gh. Ge g he de f
e he e he hed ha he ade cha ge , ha he
had a ch ce ha eg e ed.
O e f he e I hea d f e e a I had a c e h had
ece b gh a ca . I a a fa c ca . The e a f
e . The f a ced b a a d . The a c e f
h a e he f d he e e eg a a d, ad , he a
d d ' f he ca . A he bab d d ' f he ca . (LAUGHS) Tha
e a . The had h b g eg e a d h d d e f a ce h
ca ? We ha e a a bac a d he e ha e e he ca a d a e
a . The e e ab e ee he e a h ha e e ha e h he
e a d h d d a a d ha e e he ch ce ha he ade
ha he eg e ed? We a ed h he e e a d a a
a a bac a eh de , e a ed he e
e e ha e e had, he e e ha he e e a g
ab he f a ce a d ead g a e a ea e a ea e ha
he e e a g, e c d de a d ha a e he e a d
he e a e e g g f a d? Wha h d e be d g a a
ga a ?
J eca ha I ha e g e h gh. The e h g d bef e
e ea ch he a e ha a g ha e, def e c ea e ea ch
b ec e , he g e a c a he be c ea e a d
he a h ahead a he e a e ? H he e a d
a bac ? The he g e ea ch, a e a c de g

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a ach, a e c ed e a d he e a ac e f
e ea ch a e . The he a e d g he a bac dec
a e , a a e e d a b a d a gh af e each
e , ha e a e a e f he e e a g e dec a e
a d he a c de ea e a e f he e ea ch ha ha e d e
a bac .
Y gh be de g a I f ed f W h ? A e a d
h gh beca e f he b ead a d d gh f g e e he e. O e
e, I f g ed he ce a ha I eeded d a d he a d I
f g ed ha f , I eeded b ead d b h de f he ce ,
e had a d ch a d a b ead a d he I f g ed ce
e f he b ead beca e e e e d d ' a e ce he
b ead, he a ed ce he b ead. I f g ed h d he
b ead a d d gh a he a e e a d beca e a ca ef ed
h . I e he d gh d gh he d gh ach e
a d g bac he b ead a d bac he d gh e a e
e fec ha ed d gh , he a c , he
c a a d he gh a de he b . F
d g ha I a ab e f g e ha I eeded d , I c d ea
d e gh a d b he e d f , ha I f d a I had a e
a g c e , e d e e c e a d a e h I a .
The d e a e. The d ' be e g a e ab he b ead
beca e he b ead a a f e. The d gh e e ' ha e h
e. Wha h e ce de g a d e ec e a ea g ea
ce a d ha a e ab e he d a e d c be e
a d a a e ab e a e c e ch ha e , e f
e e e ce ha de e he .
Tha , ch. I ea e ed be g ab e ha e
h gh . If d e c ec a d a a e , e ha e

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e e . If a ed c ec a d a e af e he
c fe e ce cha e af e a d , a e e ha e c e. Tha
ch. (APPLAUSE)
STEVE BATY: Tha , e ch. Q e f Sa ah. Wh e a e
h g f ha , I ha e e, h ch he a a d ha ce ,
a ed ab ha g a e a e ea he ce , ee ed. I
h h g, he I a d g e ea ch, he e e a e he
ce ha I ge a e e f ha I a g a bac ab he
e ea ch e a d he ef e h be e ha a d he f a
ca cha ge a d he e a e ca cha ge. H d I a age ha
ce ?
SARAH HEIMEIER: I ea de e d he e f e ea ch ha a e
g. F ab e g, e e I f d ha ha g a e a e
e ha d beca e f e ha e a f d g c e . Whe I
a d g e a h a h g h he ea , he e ha e
c ea def ed - e h he b ec e a d e a de a d
a e a d e ce ce , g ha h g g c e h a
e a e h g e ha , h e e a e ea . The e ce a
e f e ea ch he e ca a h ha g g e
a d ce f d e e h g, e e h g cha ge . I ea ha g
f e b g ce a e h g g a d e be
ab e e he e a e f a d he e, h g g
a d acce g ha , ba ed he d ffe e e f e ea ch ha
d . I f d ha g e h g ace he a ce ce a e
f e ea ch ec , a he b d ha fa a f
ea a d he cha ge , he de a d h .

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STEVE BATY: I a g e a c ea a f ha f h g
a e g ca e, e eed h g a h , e eed de
e eed a d ha e e he c e gh be f f a
e .
SARAH HEIMEIER: A d g ha a d a g e c de ha
h gh he ce f ha d e ea a be ab e
c ca e a d ha ha e e ed bef e ha e ha e f d ha
e a ed h a eh de a e e ha he ge b a d. I
da a ha he f , age ha he c ec h? Ha g ha
c ea f d a he a , he he e ea ch, ha
g g ge he b a d he d ha a bac he .
STEVE BATY: I a g a he a d e ce f e e h ha e
e . If d , ha d a d I c e e . Sa ah,
d g ha e ea ch a g ce a c a , he e ha
f e a e a d h a e e h d e be c d g he
e ea ch? Ca a a a ab h de e e he a f
e e ha ea ?
SARAH HEIMEIER: Ye . Th e ha I a a gg e h ,
e ec a e f he e ea ch e ha e bee d g ece d ffe e
d e e ha e bee ea g a d he d ffe e b ac e , e
f e f b e e . We ha e a ed h ab e gh
a c a , a e f d e , e f e f he b e
ge ha a e f ha ha e g a d he ce e ha e ha
a e f h ace, e de a d a b e a d he e ca
a ge a b e a d a e ea a a e ea ch g h
e e h a e c c b e e h he e a d e

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ca he he ha g de e f he be f e e e h d
be ea g . We f d a f b e e a e e d ffe e . A g
ha e ha a c e f e ea ch, d g ha e gh e e
e h g e ha a d he e a e f d ha e eed dee
d e bea e ce a d he e ca ad a d f g e d e
d 12 f he beca e he a e d ffe e ? Wha h d e d g g
f a d?
STEVE BATY: U de a d g he a ab ha ha e dea h
a a a c a ea .
SARAH HEIMEIER: Ye .
STEVE BATY: E e ha a e "H ha e a ga ed f e c g
a d ge g he b a d f he e - ce , eg, ha g
c ed e a d d ha e f he g h h beha
cha ge?"
SARAH HEIMEIER: I f d g c e h he ea a e a e
a g, he I a g h he de g e a h d e a
d h ? A d a g e e e' dea b a d a ha e fee e
a d h d a e e ? Ha g ha f e b a d be g
e h h e ha e d b f he a e e e e ha a
e e a c a d a e e h gh he ce a d he
e e he a e , f g g a d g h ea a ha
f he a d ha a a ha e ab e he d he be
he a e c ab a g ge he a e . W h he a eh de a
e , f g g ha he be a f he a e e . D he
e c f e ce, d he e P e P ha d e he e , ha

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he be a c ab a e ca ge ha ea g d c e.
STEVE BATY: I ha e a he e f Na e. He ed he
e e e ce a W h , ha f ha g ha a d he e
a "H d a age he e e f de h he a a ?"
SARAH HEIMEIER: I d d ' hea he e beca e I a a gh g.
STEVE BATY: I h gh ha a g g e d h c g
d gh . The e a "H d a age he e e f de h
he a a ?"
SARAH HEIMEIER: I e f he e e f de h, de e d he e
f e ea ch a e d g a d he be f a c a . Wha I
a d d a a h g f h ha e h e a e ge g
a d a e a e d c g a d e e e h g a d
f e. Ge he a e ec e a d he d ha dee d e g
f he d e eed e e he a c a b e f g e
ha e a e d g. Ha e e ed a h g? D e h e a e h
e e e? Ta e e b e , ead f be g e he ed b a
f he f a a d he f ee g . Tha a ce f a g
ha e h a d he ha e a f h gh a d
he g ha d e h g g f a d ha e eed d ?
STEVE BATY: I ha e ee e e gg e h he a f da a a d
f h a g he e beca e he e ch a
ab ha e ha e g ge a ed e g. G g e f he
e ac a g h gh ha a a ce , e e c a e, ge
gh ac a he he e g. The e a ea e

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e f g e e f e gh e he a a .
SARAH HEIMEIER: Ye , a d I f d a g a a a d
ha a e . Ha g e he a e a e e h g ace b a g
e f a a d a d e h a e e e ba ed ha I
ha e hea d? D he e e b e e a d a c ec h a e ?
Ma g e e e e b a d h a g h gh he ce .
If h , he e d g a f e d g e ea ch a d
e a d ha e e-d a c e f h e h g.
STEVE BATY: Tha , e ch, Sa ah. (APPLAUSE)
I ha e a he e . He ed he e e e ce a
W h - ha f ha g ha . The e , h gh, a ,
"H d a age he e e f de h he a a ?"
SARAH HEIMEIER: S , I d d ' hea he e beca e I a
b a gh g!
STEVE BATY: I ac a h gh ha d e d h c g
d gh . The e a , h d a age he e e f de h
he a a ?
SARAH HEIMEIER: I e f he e e f de h, I g e ea de e d
he e f e ea ch ha ' e d g a d he be f a c a .
A d ha I a d , e, d a a h f h ha e
h e' e g a d , a e a e - d c g, e
e e h g e e he e a d ' f e! S , ge a a e ec e
a d he d ha d f dee -d e g he f he , "Oh, d e
eed e e he a c a b e f g e ha a e e d g?

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Ha e e ed a h g? D e h e a e h e e h g?" A d he
d f e a g e b e , ead f be g e he ed b
a f he f a , a d he f ee g . S , eah, ha ' , e,
ce f a g ha e h . A d ha e a f
h gh a d g , "Wha d e h g g f a d ha e eed
d ?"
STEVE BATY: I' e ee e e gg e h he a f da a a d
f h a g he e beca e he e' ch a ab
ha he , f, , e, "We' e g a ge a ed
e - g," g g e f he e ac a g h gh ha
a a ce , e e c a e, ge gh , ac a he he
e - g. The e a ea e e f g e e f
e gh e he a a ?
SARAH HEIMEIER: I f d a g a a a e a d
ha . Ha g e he a e a e ace, b he a g e f a
a d g , "D e h a e e e ba ed ha I' e hea d? D
he e e h ha e b e ed , d he a c ec h a e ?" A d
a g e ha e e e b a d h a g h gh ha
ce beca e, eah, f h , he ' , e, e d a
f e d g e ea ch, a d e, a d ' e g a ha e
ed a c e f h , e h g.
STEVE BATY: Tha e ch, Sa ah. Tha . (APPLAUSE)
A gh . We ha e e a e e a , , bef e he b ea , h ch
A e C f he ABC, g a be a g , g a he
af e a h f e f ced beha cha ge h gh COVID, a c a h
ge e e. A e , ha e ch. We c e. O e .

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