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Beyond Autonomous Teams

Avatar for Simon Rohrer Simon Rohrer
October 12, 2026
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Beyond Autonomous Teams

Avatar for Simon Rohrer

Simon Rohrer

October 12, 2026

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  1. WHO ARE WE? INDUSTRIES RELIANT ON SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT TRADING PLATFORM

    COMPANY TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENTS AMSTERDAM OFFICE SIMON & MARCEL
  2. THE MEN TOLD US THAT IN ORDER TO ADAPT WITH

    BEST ADVANTAGE… THEY HAD EVOLVED A FORM OF WORK ORGANIZATION BASED ON PRACTICES COMMON IN UNMECHANIZED DAYS WHEN SMALL GROUPS, WHO TOOK RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ENTIRE CYCLE, HAD WORKED AUTONOMOUSLY. THESE PRACTICES HAD DISAPPEARED AS THE PITS BECAME MORE PROGRESSIVELY MORE MECHANIZED… AND LED TO AGGREGATES OF MEN… HAVING THEIR JOBS BROKEN DOWN INTO ONE-MAN-ONE-TASK ROLES, WHILE COORDINATION AND CONTROL HAD BEEN EXTERNALIZED IN SUPERVISION, WHICH HAD BECOME COERCIVE. NOW THEY HAD FOUND A WAY AT A HIGHER LEVEL OF MECHANIZATION OF RECOVERING THE GROUP COHESION AND SELF REGULATION THEY HAD LOST AND OF ADVANCING THEIR POWER TO PARTICIPATE IN DECISIONS CONCERNING THEIR WORK ARRANGEMENTS. FOR THIS REASON THE BOOK WHICH OVERVIEWED THE TAVISTOCK MINING STUDIES WAS SUBTITLED, ‘THE LOSS, REDISCOVERY AND TRANSFORMATION OF A WORK TRADITION’
  3. CONTAINER CONCEPTS THICK CONCEPTS SUSTAINABILITY COURAGEOUS QUALITY GENEROUS “AS A

    FULL SERVICE ORGANIZATION, WE PROVIDE A TOTAL SOLUTION THAT SUITS YOU” “EVALUATIVE AND SUBSTANTIALLY DESCRIPTIVE AT THE SAME TIME” AUTONOMY https://onderzoekshuis.nl/ blog/containerbegrippenvermijden-voor-helderecommunicatie https://iep.utm.edu/thickco/
  4. “TEAMS NEED AGENCY — BUT THEY ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND

    THE WEB OF DEPENDENCIES THEY SIT WITHIN. A 20-PERSON STARTUP CAN MAKE ALMOST ANY DECISION FREELY. A BANK WITH 2,000 PEOPLE IS A DIFFERENT GAME. A GLOBAL COMPANY WITH 300,000 IS ANOTHER GAME ENTIRELY WHAT TEAMS ACTUALLY NEED ISN'T UNLIMITED AUTONOMY BUT CLEAR BOUNDARIES WITHIN WHICH THEY CAN ACT FREELY.” João Rosa, https://aardling.eu/en/insights/the-learningorganisation-with-joao-rosa (2026)
  5. “THE VALUE STREAM IN THE PRODUCTION OF PHYSICAL GOODS IS

    OPTIMISED TO PRODUCE THE SAME PHYSICAL THING MANY TIMES. THE VALUE STREAM IN THE PRODUCTION OF SOFTWARE ONLY EVER PRODUCES A THING ONCE!” Chris Matts, https://theitriskmanager.com/2024/11/09/value-streams-and-thefailureship/ (2024)
  6. VALUE CENTRE BANK VALUE CENTRE INVESTMENT BANK VALUE CENTRE GLOBAL

    MARKETS VALUE CENTRE EQUITIES LISTED DERIVATIVES VALUE CENTRE CASH EQUITIES VALUE CENTRE HUMAN RESOURCES SHARED SERVICE VALUE CENTRE RECRUITMENT SHARED SERVICE VALUE CENTRE Jonathan Smart, with Zsolt Berend, Myles Ogilvie, & Simon Rohrer, Sooner Safer Happier (2020)
  7. VALUE CENTRE GLOBAL MARKETS VALUE CENTRE EQUITIES LISTED DERIVATIVES VALUE

    CENTRE CASH EQUITIES VALUE CENTRE HUMAN RESOURCES SHARED SERVICE VALUE CENTRE RECRUITMENT SHARED SERVICE VALUE CENTRE
  8. VALUE CENTRE INVESTMENT BANK VALUE CENTRE GLOBAL MARKETS VALUE CENTRE

    EQUITIES LISTED DERIVATIVES VALUE CENTRE CASH EQUITIES VALUE CENTRE HUMAN RESOURCES SHARED SERVICE VALUE CENTRE RECRUITMENT SHARED SERVICE VALUE CENTRE
  9. VALUE CENTRE BANK VALUE CENTRE INVESTMENT BANK VALUE CENTRE GLOBAL

    MARKETS VALUE CENTRE EQUITIES LISTED DERIVATIVES VALUE CENTRE CASH EQUITIES VALUE CENTRE HUMAN RESOURCES SHARED SERVICE VALUE CENTRE RECRUITMENT SHARED SERVICE VALUE CENTRE
  10. “TEAMS NEED AGENCY — BUT BANK THEY ALSO NEED TO

    INVESTMENT BANK UNDERSTAND THE WEB OF GLOBAL MARKETS EQUITIES DEPENDENCIES THEY SIT WITHIN. LISTED DERIVATIVES A 20-PERSON STARTUP CAN MAKE ALMOST ANY DECISION CASH EQUITIES FREELY. A BANK WITH 2,000 PEOPLE IS A HUMAN RESOURCES DIFFERENT GAME. RECRUITMENT A GLOBAL COMPANY WITH 300,000 IS ANOTHER GAME ENTIRELY” VALUE CENTRE VALUE CENTRE VALUE CENTRE VALUE CENTRE VALUE CENTRE VALUE CENTRE SHARED SERVICE VALUE CENTRE SHARED SERVICE VALUE CENTRE João Rosa, https://aardling.eu/en/insights/the-learningorganisation-with-joao-rosa (2026)
  11. THE WEB OF DEPENDENCIES IS THE SHAPE OF YOUR VALUE

    SOME OF THESE DEPENDENCIES ARE ACCIDENTAL SOME ARE ESSENTIAL
  12. PRICING ORDERS A TRADING PLATFORM RISK & MARGIN 80 TEAMS,

    1 ‘PRODUCT’ PORTFOLIO SETTLEMENT POST-TRADE CORE
  13. “ANY ORGANIZATION THAT DESIGNS A SYSTEM (DEFINED BROADLY) WILL PRODUCE

    A DESIGN WHOSE STRUCTURE IS A COPY OF THE ORGANIZATION'S COMMUNICATION STRUCTURE.” “ORGANIZATIONS THAT DESIGN SYSTEMS ARE CONSTRAINED TO PRODUCE SYSTEMS THAT REFLECT THE FINANCIAL STRUCTURES AND INCENTIVES OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.” “ALTHOUGH ORGANIZATIONS OSTENSIBLY DESIGN PRODUCTS, IT CAN ALSO BE ARGUED THAT PRODUCTS DESIGN ORGANISATIONS.”
  14. IT’S NOT JUST YOUR SOFTWARE THAT HAS ESSENTIAL COUPLING, IT’S

    YOUR VALUE THIS ESSENTIAL COUPLING CONSTRAINS HOW YOU CAN ORGANISE AND HOW YOU CAN TRADE OFF BETWEEN AUTONOMY AND COHERENCE AND THIS IS ALL FRACTAL VALUE DESIGNS ORGANIZATIONS
  15. FIVE QUESTIONS FOR EVERY VALUE CENTRE AT EVERY LEVEL 1.

    WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? 2. HOW DO WE COORDINATE? 3. HOW DO WE FIT TOGETHER? 4. WHAT’S OUT THERE FOR US? 5. WHO ARE WE?
  16. QUESTIONS & CONVERSATIONS ‘I’ QUESTIONS 1. WHAT VALUE AM I

    DELIVERING? 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? ‘WE’ QUESTIONS 2. HOW DO WE COORDINATE? 3. HOW DO WE FIT TOGETHER? 4. WHAT’S OUT THERE FOR US? 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? 5. WHO ARE WE?
  17. QUESTIONS & CONVERSATIONS ‘I’ QUESTIONS 1. WHAT VALUE AM I

    DELIVERING? 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? ‘WE’ QUESTIONS 2. HOW DO WE COORDINATE? 3. HOW DO WE FIT TOGETHER? 4. WHAT’S OUT THERE FOR US? 5. WHO ARE WE?
  18. QUESTIONS & CONVERSATIONS ‘I’ QUESTIONS CASH EQUITIES 1. WHAT VALUE

    AM I DELIVERING? LISTED DERIVATIVES 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? ‘WE’ QUESTIONS 2. HOW DO WE COORDINATE? 3. HOW DO WE FIT TOGETHER? 4. WHAT’S OUT THERE FOR US? 5. WHO ARE WE? EQUITIES LISTED DERIVATIVES CASH EQUITIES
  19. PURPOSE 5. WHO ARE WE? ENVIRONMENT 4. WHAT’S OUT THERE

    FOR US? 3. HOW DO WE FIT TOGETHER? 2. HOW DO WE COORDINATE VALUE 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1.WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING
  20. PURPOSE 5. WHO ARE WE? ENVIRONMENT 4. WHAT’S OUT THERE

    FOR US? 3. HOW DO WE FIT TOGETHER? 2. HOW DO WE COORDINATE VALUE 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1.WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING
  21. PURPOSE 5. WHO ARE WE? ENVIRONMENT 4. WHAT’S OUT THERE

    FOR US? 3. HOW DO WE FIT TOGETHER? 2. HOW DO WE COORDINATE VALUE 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1.WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING
  22. PURPOSE 5. WHO ARE WE? ENVIRONMENT EQUITIES LISTED DERIVATIVES 4.

    WHAT’S OUT THERE FOR US? 3. HOW DO WE FIT TOGETHER? CASH EQUITIES 2. HOW DO WE COORDINATE VALUE 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING 1.WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING
  23. THE PURPOSE OF THE SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOES WHO

    ARE WE? WHAT WE DO WHAT WE DO WHAT WE DO WHAT WE DO WHAT WE DO
  24. “IN EVERYDAY BUSINESS LIFE, MANAGERS [ARE] SURROUNDED BY A WORLD

    THAT IS QUITE CLEARLY CHARACTERIZED AT THE SAME TIME BY STABILITY AND INSTABILITY, PREDICTABILITY AND UNPREDICTABILITY, REGULARITY AND IRREGULARITY, CONTENTION AND CONSENSUS, INTENTION AND CHANCE. THE WORLD THEY FACE IS A PARADOX: INTERTWINED ORDER AND DISORDER.” ORDER ALIGNMENT DISORDER COHERENCE Ralph Stacey, Managing the Unknowable: Strategic Boundaries Between Order and Chaos in Organizations (1992)
  25. FROM AUTONOMY TO CAT SWETEL JABE BLOOM INTER-CONNECTED SELF CARE

    FOR OTHERS AGENCY COMMUNION ALICIA JUARRERO SELF-ASSERTION FRED & MERRELYN EMERY ELBOW-ROOM INTEGRATION HOMONOMY AGENCY COHERENCE CAROL GILLIGAN DAVID BAKAN ARTHUR KOESTLER ANDRAS ANGYAL
  26. “DANIEL PINK NAMES THE INTRINSIC MOTIVATIONS: AUTONOMY, MASTERY AND PURPOSE.

    DECI AND RYAN IN [SELF DETERMINATION] THEORY, CALL THEM AUTONOMY, COMPETENCE AND RELATEDNESS. […] I PREFER THE ORIGINAL SDT NAMES FOR THESE MOTIVATIONS WITH THEIR HINT OF THE GROUP OR TEAM ABOUT RELATEDNESS IN PARTICULAR.” Richard W Bown, Daniel Pink’s “Drive” and what Self-Determination Theory (SDT) really says (2023)
  27. ESSENTIAL BALANCES AGENCY INDIVIDUAL SENSEMAKING (WEICK) LEADER: TEAM LEADER: TRIBE

    LEADER: DEPARTMENT COHERENCE LEADER: CEO SENSEGIVING (GIOIA & CHITTIPEDDI)
  28. STRATEGY & EXECUTION FEEDBACK LOOPS INDIVIDUAL LEADER: TEAM ROGER MARTIN

    CHOICE CASCADE LEADER: TRIBE LEADER: DEPARTMENT LEADER: CEO HOSHIN KANRI CATCHBALL
  29. POLICY & GOVERNANCE INDIVIDUAL LEADER: TEAM LEADER: TRIBE ORDER ALIGNMENT

    GOVERNING CONSTRAINTS LEADER: DEPARTMENT LEADER: CEO DISORDER COHERENCE ENABLING CONSTRAINTS
  30. WHAT TIME FRAMES DO WE THINK IN? CEO: YEARS DEPARTMENT

    HEADS: QUARTERS TEAMS: WEEKS PEOPLE: DAYS AI AGENTS: HOURS
  31. “HUMAN CONTROL DEPENDS ON AGENCY […] WE WANTED TO COME

    UP WITH A MEASURE THAT TRACKS AGENCY OVER TIME […] WHEN ARE AI SYSTEMS NOW ABLE TO DO LONG, COMPLEX ENOUGH ACTIONS BY THEMSELVES” fi Chris Painter, METR, “Understanding the Most Viral Chart in Arti cial Intelligence” Odd Lots Podcast (2026)
  32. TOO ANGLOCENTRIC? ENGLISH GERMAN DUTCH FRENCH SPANISH HUNGARIAN SOCIOTECHNICAL AUTONOMOUS

    WORK GROUPS TEILAUTONOME ARBEITSGRUPPE (SEMI-AUTONOMOUS) ZELFSTURENDE TEAMS (SELF-STEERING) (ABSORBED WITHOUT DISTINCT TERM) PRE-EMPTED BY AUTOGESTIÓN (NEVER RECEIVED IRON CURTAIN) AGILE TEAMS SELF-ORGANIZING (MANIFESTO / SCRUM GUIDE) AUTONOMOUS SELBSTORGANISIERT ZELFORGANISEREND AUTO-ORGANISÉ AUTOORGANIZADO ÖNSZERVEZŐDŐ HUMAN AGENCY AGENCY HANDLUNGSFÄHIGKEIT (ACTION-ABILITY) HANDELINGSBEKWAAMHEID (ACTION-CAPACITY) AGENTIVITÉ (NEOLOGISM) / CAPACITÉ D'AGIR CAPACIDAD DE ACCIÓN (CAPACITY FOR ACTION) CSELEKVŐKÉPESSÉG (CAPACITY-TO-ACT) AI AGENCY AI AGENT KI-AGENT (LOANWORD) AI-AGENT (LOANWORD) AGENT IA (LOANWORD) AGENTE DE IA (COGNATE) MI-ÁGENS (LOANWORD) COHERENCE KOHÄRENZ / ZUSAMMENHALT (HOLDINGTOGETHER) SAMENHANG (HANGING-TOGETHER) COHÉRENCE (COGNATE) COHERENCIA (COGNATE) ÖSSZEFÜGGÉS (TOGETHER-HANGING) COHERENCE
  33. QUESTIONS & CONVERSATIONS (AGENT EDITION) ‘I’ QUESTIONS 🤖 🤖 🤖

    🤖 🤖 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? 1. WHAT VALUE AM I DELIVERING? ‘WE’ QUESTIONS 2. HOW DO WE COORDINATE? 3. HOW DO WE FIT TOGETHER? 4. WHAT’S OUT THERE FOR US? 5. WHO ARE WE? 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖
  34. “WHAT TEAMS ACTUALLY NEED ISN'T UNLIMITED AUTONOMY BUT CLEAR BOUNDARIES

    WITHIN WHICH THEY CAN ACT FREELY.” CONTEXT + HARNESS AGENCY = CAPACITY TO ACT João Rosa, https://aardling.eu/en/insights/the-learningorganisation-with-joao-rosa (2026)
  35. CONTEXT + HARNESS SKILL. MD SKILL. MD WHOLE ORG SKILL.

    MD DEPT. SKILL. MD T-O-T TEAM INDIVIDUAL SKILL. MD
  36. THREE MOVES FROM TO PRODUCT VALUE AUTONOMY AGENCY+ COHERENCE AUTONOMOUS

    PRODUCT TEAMS ORGANISATION OF NESTED + NETWORKED VALUE CENTRES
  37. WE ARE AN ORGANISATION OF NESTED + NETWORKED VALUE CENTRES

    WITH AGENCY + COHERENCE Source: https://integrationtraining.co.uk/
  38. WE ARE AN ORGANISATION OF NESTED + NETWORKED VALUE CENTRES

    WITH AGENCY + COHERENCE SETS POLICY THAT AFFECTS MENTORS LEADS COMMUNITY OF PRACTICE 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖
  39. THE SHAPE OF OUR VALUE DETERMINES OUR TRADEOFFS BETWEEN AGENCY

    AND COHERENCE VALUE CENTRE BANK VALUE CENTRE INVESTMENT BANK VALUE CENTRE GLOBAL MARKETS VALUE CENTRE EQUITIES LISTED DERIVATIVES VALUE CENTRE CASH EQUITIES VALUE CENTRE HUMAN RESOURCES SHARED SERVICE VALUE CENTRE RECRUITMENT SHARED SERVICE VALUE CENTRE
  40. WE ALL HAVE A PURPOSE – THAT’S WHAT WE HAVE

    AGENCY TO DO THAT’S NOT STATIC; IT’S NOT CASCADED TOPDOWN, NOT EVEN NECESSARILY ALIGNED – IT’S CONTINUALLY NEGOTIATED UP AND DOWN BUT HOPEFULLY MOST OF THE TIME IT’S SOMEWHAT COHERENT WHO ARE WE? WHAT WE DO WHAT WE DO WHAT WE DO WHAT WE DO WHAT WE DO