are these? - imapd, mail (sendmail) - shib (idp-*, shibd, transaction, native) - torque, listserv (listserv.log), catalina.out - www (access, error, suexec) - kern, messages, syslog, auth, local, yum, transaction, anaconda, up2date - mod_jk (cm), slapd, net-snmpd (xen) - handful of others, but legacy