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Transcript
Athens SEO 2026 Welcomes On Stage Technical SEO and Analytics
Consultant Jonathan Moore
We’ve been weighing pigs for years
Numbers don’t explain what’s wrong
The signal comes after the damage
We know there’s an AI measurement chasm
No first party data from LLMs
Clicks have collapsed
The messy middle is messier
@SearchLDN We know there are flaws with prompt tracking
@SearchLDN AI responses are highly inconsistent https://sparktoro.com/blog/new-research-ais-are-highly-inconsistent-when-recommending-brands-or-products-marketers-should-take-care-when-tracking-ai-visibility/
We keep getting distracted by the latest thing
We can’t wait for perfect
We have to use workarounds
It’s not a data problem
It’s a question problem
The 3 R’s: Revenue, Recognition, Recommendations
Essentials
Fix your campaign tracking
Compare LLM sessions to organic and total sessions https://krmdigital.uk/blog/ai-in-ga4/
Next segment by page template https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/11523339?hl=en
Set up Search Console bulk data export https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/data-analytics/analyze-google-search-data-with-bigquery
None
Check out ML for SEO on how to interrogate this
data https://academy.mlforseo.com/product-category/courses/
Or sign up to SEO Gets https://seogets.com/
Check your queries for SERP features https://dataforseo.com/apis/serp-api/google-serp-api
Set up Bing Webmaster Tools https://www.bing.com/webmasters/help/ai-performance-9f8e7d6c
Revenue Are we attracting, converting, and profiting from the right
customers?
Are we making money?
Check if revenue per session has dropped https://www.searchenginejournal.com/why-your-seo-kpis-are-failing-your-business-and-how-to-fix-them/564769/
Who are our most profitable customer segments?
Survey them
Recognition: Are we known, understood, and associated with the right
things?
Start with positioning https://www.aprildunford.com/post/a-product-positioning-exercise
Be honest
Now create a basic prompt tracking library
Q1) Are we recognised as a brand? Q2) What are
we known for? Q3) Do we show for our key attributes? Prompts need to answer these questions:
None
Q1) Are we recognised as a brand? Q2) What are
we known for? Q3) Do we show for our key attributes? Prompts need to answer these questions:
Question: Are we recognised as a brand? Prompts: “What do
you know about [brand]?” “Who are [brand]s competitors?” Tip: Try this with web search turned on and off
Question: What are we known for? Prompts: “What is [brand]
known for?” “What do [brand] sell?”
Question: Do we show for our key attributes? Prompts: What
is [brand]s unique selling points? I am [person Y], looking for [service], is [brand] a good choice?
Pick a model and run prompts
Check the answers for accuracy
Recommendations: Are we chosen, endorsed, and shown alongside the right
competitors
Question: Are we recommended? Prompts: What is the best brand
for [service]? I am [person Y], looking for [service], what are some brands I should consider?
Question: How often do we show up? Check if you
are: • Actively recommended • Included as an option • Only mentioned in passing • Missing
Question: How do we show up? Check the sentiment and
context: • Leading recommendation • Neutral mention • Wrong or misleading
Question: How do we show up? Check where and how
you appear • Opening paragraph • Bullet point • Caveat • Source citations
Question: Who else shows up? Extract: • Mentions of other
brands • Links to sources
Question: Where do we need to be mentioned? Extract: •
Extract source domains • Find gaps where you aren’t mentioned
Turn this information into a grid per model
We can now diagnose problems
And assign metrics
Closing the Chasm
We can now think about scaling the process
USE NEW METRICS WITH CAUTION
BEWARE OF SHINY OBJECTS
Be a cynical optimist
Waikay is a solid, affordable start https://waikay.io/
As is Advanced Web Ranking https://www.advancedwebranking.com/
I also like Similarweb https://www.similarweb.com/
Monday morning.
Stop weighing the pig. Build the grids. Don’t wait for
perfect.
Thank You! Jonathan Moore Technical SEO and Analytics Consultant Hire
me! https://www.linkedin.com/in/moorejonathan/